Wednesday, November 26, 2008

Okie Bloggers Fall for Bogus Obama Birth Certificate Story

You'd think Oklahoma's conservative bloggers would have more sense. Common sense, we like to think, is a sturdy Oklahoma value.

But no. Some folks who should know better keep falling for conspiracy theories concerning President-elect Barack Obama's phony birth certificate. In the fantasy world of right-wing nonsense, this means that Obama can't actually be president because he isn't actually an American.

While we're at it, there's also a story (read: hoax) that Elvis and Marilyn are alive and well and living in Miami, and a whole horde of space aliens are living in Roswell.

Who's passing along such nonsense? David Arnett at Tulsa Today, for one, and, citing Arnett, OKC's Mike McCarville on his political blog, McCarville Report Online.

And how do they know about the fraudulent certificate? Ah, yes—from other wingnut web sites and such paragons of good judgment as Alan Keyes. Keyes has filed a lawsuit to uncover the hidden truth about Obama.

Of course. If you lose election, search for technicalities, even when you have to invent the technicalities. That's bound to turn up some dirt.

Keyes, by the way, is the non-Illinois carpetbagger (and world-class gasbag) who ran against—you guessed it—Barack Obama when Obama ran for the U.S. Senate. If memory serves, Keyes lost in a landslide. (Keyes needs something productive to do these days, apparently).

Meanwhile, the echo chamber keeps firing blanks at will, as if they have real bullets and an actual political target.

They don't. They are grasping at straws and doing a disservice to politics and democracy. Oklahomans, especially so-called conservative Oklahomans, should get off this bandwagon before they embarrass themselves even more than they already have.

DECEMBER 8 UPDATE: As we (and many others) predicted, the Supreme Court today declined to hear one of these cases, adding to a long line of failed cases filed by the crackpots.   

20 comments:

Burning Prairie said...

I'll have you know that I've got a tinfoil hat right here that says there are indeed whole hordes of space aliens residing in Roswell. Only thing, they are totally disguised as normal, rational people and you can't tell they're space alien invaders from Mars until they open their mouths and speak pure gibberish. Kind of like our right-wing bloggers.

Tulsan said...

Yet another stinky McNugget from McCarville.

He knows it's nonsense. His "story" reads like Leonard Nimoy on "In Search of," with supposed "investigations" into Atlantis, the Amityville horror, Bigfoot, ghosts and UFO coverups.

"Could it be..." he's just feeding the hungry wingnuts?

Ted said...

Best explanation (following 2 you tube videos) I've seen for the total media blackout of what is the single greatest news event and domestic threat -- let's call it OBAMAGATE -- since the outbreak of the American Civil War and for the sincere prayers of the American people that the United States Supreme Court -- let's call it OUR LAST HOPE -- now to have the courage to save our great nation as we have come to know it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1spPrzvYWRI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8b_usFyLHQ

Tulsan said...

Let's call it... off. It's a bogus "issue," as McCarville well knows.

Tulsan said...

Read it and weep at Snopes.com. Wingnuts will need to find a different peg to support their freakout.

Anonymous said...

THis is not a Bogus issue at all... your heads are in the sand.

Snopes?? Do you really rely on them for facts? Grow up and read the comprehensive analysis at:

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/2008/11/22/obamas_born_conspiracy_forged_images,_phony_photos,_and_felony_fraud.thtml

I'll warn you it's a bit technical and it might be difficult for you to follow, but it does have a lot of pictures! It proves the BC posted on Fight the Smears is a forgery. AND BTW EGGHEADS, conspiracies are real and have occurred throughout the history of the world.

Tulsan said...

Oh, my mistake in citing Snopes vs. the trusted polarik.blogtownhall.com blog.

Your URL doesn't work.

I looked at Townhall.com, and it features the usual depressing collection of wingnut welfare cases: Bill Bennett, Hugh Hewitt, Michael Medved. Guys who never met a story too dumb to flog.

Sorry, "Anonymous" (hey, good move to keep the Obama storm troopers baffled about your identity,) but all the whining and crying by conspiracy theory wingnuts does not make this a story.

Tulsan said...

By the way, "Bill Bennett, Hugh Hewitt, Michael Medved"... their initial are BB, HH and MM. Could that be a secret signal to alert wingnuts that the Rapture is imminent and the Anti-Christ has arrived?

BBarack
HHussein
ObaMMa??

I rest my case.

Tulsan said...

I got the full URL on a different view of comments.

"Dr. Polarik" (a psuedonym) sez:

"I had no idea that I would wind up being the only person on the Planet (at that time) to have spotted the anomalies that I knew were the by-products of intentional, graphic alteration, and to go on record as stating that the Daily Kos image was a fake. I was also not prepared for what came along with this knowledge, for what I had to endure for making it public."

WAHHHH!I am a martyr to the TROOOOF!!

"Sadly, mainstream media have totally ignored this inconvenient truth and are not even been willing to even look at this birth certificate issue... Even thigh-ranking governmental officials in the state of Hawaii where Obama was allegedly born, won't reveal what's on Obama's original birth certificate."

WAHHHHH! I am being persecuted like all the great geniuses and TROOF-TELLERS!!

How many times have we heard this kind of song and dance?

Try this link: factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Anonymous said...

~Tulsan

Ok, Tulsan let me hold your hand and guide you through this. The link just got cut off... no big deal, most anyone could have figured it out. Here you go.

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/2008/11/22

Why don't you just read the analysis and respond to it's content??

Also, my name is Lori and I'm from California. What does that really matter?

Tulsan said...

It doesn't.

Sorry you missed my comment where I went to the untruncated link.

Are you aware that there is no "Dr. Polarik"? Does that impinge on his credibility at all for you?

Here is the way this "scholar" discusses FactCheck.org on his site:

"No, FactChump (sic), I complained about there being only one 'crease from folding evident'in your full-length image, when all others had two folds evident.

"No, FuktCheck (sic), I did not talk about "strange halos" around the letters..."

This site is so obviously bogus, it's a waste of time going through it with a fine-toothed comb.

Snopes is the number one internet source for hoax-checking.

Feel free to join with the other wingnuts flogging this dead horse. It will only serve to highlight to the rest of the populace what a bunch of kooks have been running the country.

Go-bama!

George said...

Ask yourself this question:

Why has Barack Obama spent nearly a million dollars in legal fees, rather than producing a $12.00 original birth certificate?

I believe the question answers itself.

Tulsan said...

Must be the case thrown out of court by a federal judge because "(right-wing lawyer) Berg's attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were 'frivolous and not worthy of discussion.'"

Philly.com

Tulsan said...

Wow, these are some wacky wingnuts! Now they are eating their own. From the article Arnett linked to on Tulsa Today... get this:

"But what about the failure of the powerful conservative media – how to explain their total blackout of this story? Let’s look at their reactions:

"Fox News: Total Silence.
Rush Limbaugh: Total Silence.
Mark Levin: Total Silence.
Laura Ingraham: Total Silence.
Bill O’Reilly: Total Silence.
Sean Hannity: Total Silence.

"...not one of these cowardly journalists has asked the simple question: Mr. Obama, where is your birth certificate?

"Or were they not cowards but patriots?

"Could it be that shortly after the president’s reelection, he and major government officials received highly credible evidence from America’s ruthless Islamist enemies that they had a number of devastating (probably nuclear suitcase) weapons – set up and ready to be activated in as many as six-to-10 of our major cities – unless he (the president) tacked left and played nice for the following two years?"

Heckuva job tacking left, Bushie.

AH-HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Anonymous said...

I don't know why the MSM is not interested in this issue. The entire issue could be resolved if Obama would just produce the so-called "vault" certificate, which is the document showing the hospital/doctor signature. The document produced "on-line" is merely a computer generated record; it is derived from a primary document which is the so-called "vault" certificate. The FBI probably did not ask for the "vault" certificate when they vetted Obama for the US senate, because it was not necessary to prove that he is a "natural-born" citizen to serve as senator. To qualify for the office of president , you must be both a citizen and also a "natural-born" citizen - born in the US or in a US territory. Thus, Gov. Schwarzenegger who is a US citizen cannot be president because he was born in Germany. If President-elect Obama is not "natural-born", then he cannot be sworn in as president.

The computer record generated by the State of Hawaii is not the issue. The underlying document which is the vault birth certificate signed by the doctor and showing the hospital has not been produced by Obama despite at least 9 lawsuits to compel its production. The Hawaiian Secretary of Health has confirmed that there is a vault certificate; however she has not disclosed the contents of the "vault" certificate. . This is of import and interest because from 1911 to 1972, Hawaii would record a birth of a person over the age of l upon an affidavit stating that the person/child was born at home. This statute was on the books because many people during the time that Hawaii was a territory (and even thereafter) were born at home and not in a hospital. Also, Hawaii has a way of "registering" births as Hawaiian for a child that was not actually born in Hawaii if the parents were residents of Hawaii.

Thus, Obama's mother and grandmother might have filed an affidavit stating that Obama was born at home to ensure his American citizenship. His maternal grandparents were sophisticated individuals who would have been sensitive to the issue of making sure than Barack had American citizenship. The putting of announcements in the local newspaper is not dispositive of the issue; any one can place a birth announcement. Because of allegations by Obama's Kenyan grandmother that Obama was born in Kenya, the equivocal statement by the Kenyan ambassador that Kenya is Obama's birthplace, it would be most helpful if Obama just released the "vault" birth certificate instead of fighting over a dozen lawsuits to put this matter to rest.

And if you think that Obama would not stoop to concealment of his birth status to gain the presidency, think about John Edwards and his "love child", Gov. Spitzer of New York forming shell corporations to wire $80,000.00 of funds to prostitutes, and Gov. McGreevy of New Jersey, hiring his homosexual Israeli male lover to head up NJ Homeland Security, and hiding his homosexuality.

Hawaiian Department of Health website

Tulsan said...

Anonymous said... "I don't know why the MSM is not interested in this issue."

Hey, that swell article at Tulsa Today just told us why: Hannity, Limbaugh, O'Reilly and other mum right-wing "communicators" are great patriots!

Since America’s ruthless Islamist enemies have nuclear suitcase weapons in our major cities, Limbaugh and company are staying silent, lest the weapons are detonated!

Either that, or they are simply too embarrassed to run this dumb story up their flagpoles.

What a bumper crop of wingnuts this story has yielded!

Tulsan said...

In fact, Rush Limbaugh did address this "issue" on his show, October 27, 2008:

Rush: "Let me just hit you between the eyes: It's a waste of time. We can't prove it! When you can't prove something, you drop it. It's a waste of time. Now, the judge threw the case out in Philadelphia last week. A Mr. Berg had filed it and so forth. Nobody was ever going to be able to prove it. All there is is speculation. Eight days speculation is not going to do anybody any good. It's not going to sway any independents. It's not going to change anybody's minds. You know, the birth certificate thing, who knows? They may find out at some point, but you can't prove it, so it's a waste of time."

Tulsan said...

OK, I'm tired of riding this hoss.

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Summer said...

Conservatives and common sense go together about like dry paper and gasoline. If they actually did stop for a minute and embrace common sense the conservative parts of the brains go up in flames. It's just easier to believe that Obama was born in Africa, there's a war on Christmas, and there's some gay agenda that involves tossing straight Christians into jail forever.

You know, ignorance is bliss and all that.

Tulsan said...

I am forced to put myself under the wingnut line to report that McCarville reacted to this little molehill in a teapot.

McCarville blogged:

"Earthquake (in OKC): It was just another minor earthquake last night...not Alternative Tulsa finding (quick, which bean is it under?) another local conservative conspiracy against Barack Obama."